Gas Prices In Your Area?

[Island Daze]

Today we hit $4.10 a gallon for regular unleaded.I guess having one gas station on the island does create a monopoly.To find gas at the national average it involves a round trip of 140 miles, 4 hours that include the 40 minute ferry, so we are kinda stuck.

[Patti Puzo]

I paid $3.69 for regular yesterday.

[Jerry S]

$3.79 just N. of Atlanta.

[ConchRepublic]

Today we hit $4.10 a gallon for regular unleaded.I guess having one gas station on the island does create a monopoly.To find gas at the national average it involves a round trip of 140 miles, 4 hours that include the 40 minute ferry, so we are kinda stuck.

Well, from here, I'd have to drive 240 miles RT to get
to where I could begin to look for cheap gas. No
ferry though.

However, more pertainent, what are the prices to fill
up the boat in the Abacos. Gotta be through the roof.
Anyone have a guestimate of the price?

--

Bud

[gummy67]

I put $75.00 in the tank yesterday and didn't fill it up.Regular unleaded is $4.04 in Boca Raton.The pump stops at $75.00,we have a 25 gallon tank in our VW Touareg.The wife always runs it down to fumes.

[HALF-A-HAMIAN]

How do you get it so cheap in CO.? It's $3.86 here, and they have to pump it uphill to youse guys!
Hope the big blow didn't get anybody you know.

[two rock reef]

On the way to work this morning in the Baltimore area $4.70 for diesel !!, soon we'll be paying Abaco prices to be stuck in traffic and not be out on the beautiful water!:eek:

[Patti Puzo]

How do you get it so cheap in CO.? It's $3.86 here, and they have to pump it uphill to youse guys!
Hope the big blow didn't get anybody you know.


Hiya Half, I had a 10 cent per gallon discount when I fill up at Safeway (local grocery store).

[Henz]

$4.09 in Upstate NY, try $5.19 for diesel.

[Legends47]

This morning in Florida.

$3.92 Regular
$4.75 Diesel

[BahamaAngie]

I always thought diesel was cheaper????

[Patti Puzo]

I always thought diesel was more inexpensive/less complicated to process, compared to gasoline. Is that correct?
Is this another "supply and demand" thing?

[Legends47]

I think it has something to do with the new low sulpher fuel that we are having to use.

[DaGoose]

I always thought Diesel was more in expensive/less complicated to process, compared to gasoline. Is that correct?
Is this another "supply and demand" thing?

I think it is a supply & demand thing, Patti, but Rick would disagree. He's actually going to buy some 33 gallon barrels and go down to Tecate and fill them up with diesel. I guess it's $2.10 down there as opposed to $4.80 here. Makes the trip worth it. It's oil drilled in Mexico but then refined here in So Cal and then it goes back to Mexico! Kinda crazy, huh?

Tina

[SamFamAustin]

Good point about diesel. Given the demand for diesel and home heating oil (same thing), refiners have had to process diesel many times over to squeeze more goodies out of crude oil. In addition, crude oil stocks are running out of "sweet" crude and have to use high-sulfur crude - while EPA and California require ultra low sulfur diesel.

Now when you take all that stinking sulfur out of diesel, some bad things happen. Sulfur acts as a cushion that actually helps lubricate the engine and especially the valves. So refiners had to invent new synthetic lubricants to replace the "good" sulfur. That is some very expensive stuff.

Rick is right about some West Coast fuels being send back to Mexico and Alaska, which have limited refinery capacity. So one ship brings in the crude, and another brings the goodies back from whence it came. Alaska has very high fuel prices as a result. Mexico has price supports and subsidies, and thus has cheaper diesel. It is very high in sulfur content however and I would not use it in a brand new diesel engine built for ultra clean diesel.

Oh, and get a water separator and two in-line filter, Rick. You'll thank me!
-sammie

[Long Look]

Its 4.37 for unleaded in Chicago!!!
Our mass transit is being tested BIG time while they are way underfunded. This year the Illinois senate passed a bill to fund the system. Our A**hole governor :mad: used an ammendatory veto to give seniors free rides. Now the math is $12 million funding increase - $10 million in lost ticket sales = $2 million funding increase that is paying for Diesel to run the trains, while the ridership is skyrocketing. There is not even standing room on some of the trains.
In the city it is a similar story... just way more corrupt :rolleyes:

A single inter model freight car can roll for 423 miles on a gallon of Diesel yet in Illinois our senate is trying to block the railroads from expanding while they do the whole global warming dance.:confused:

[DaGoose]

Sammie, very good info. I'll make sure Rick sees this thread. I believe his truck is 4 or 5 years old. Is that old enough? He mentioned using the gas additive that we use when driving and boating in Mexico, I forget what it's called.

With these gas prices, I'm not sure we'll be taking the skippy over to Catalina Island this summer:mad:

Tina

[HALF-A-HAMIAN]

It is cheaper to refine diesel and kerosene and heating oil. The problem lies in the lack of refineries for it. Along with the ones put out of business by hurricanes and floods, the others were so out-dated they were shut down. With the rise in cost and demand for gasoline, profits were put toward refining the high-dollar stuff, until demand has surpassed supply, they're making record profits, so why change? Even if OPEC gave us crude for free, we don't have the capacity to refine. We also have seven times the shale oil capacity of Saudi Arabia! Ask your members of Congress why it's not being utilized. Brazill sank two offshore wells, and now are totally independent of any outside source. Ask your member of Congress why there isn't more offshore drilling allowed? All the recent major hurricanes have failed to damage our offshore rigs, because the technology is there, but someone's pocketbooks may get lighter from graft or whatever.

[culp]

Just filled up at $3.98, but at least I have a little car...$40 fills 'er up.

Sammie...so why is our propane so high too?!:confused:

[Abacouple]

Buy some jet fuel (kerosene). $6.29 at home. Paid $7.24 in Nashville. Signature Flight Support in Miami (always the highest I see) is $8.03/gal

[BahamaAngie]

On the way to church today it was $3.69 on the way back $3.74! In an hour!

[Floridacargocat]

Diesel price in SoFla. Diesel is more expensive than regular or premium, but guess what? I am getting 41-46 mpg in my little VW Golf TDI, so at the end of the day it is still cheaper compared to regular or premium for a lot of gasoline-driven cars. 600 miles per fuel tank is quite normal.
The next generation of VW Golf (TDI hybrid) is supposed to have 69 mpg (but not with running an a/c). Is expected to be launched in 2009 or 2010 (in Europe) (see various blogs, type in VW Golf TDI hybrid).

[big ed]

I paid a $1.25 for a 12oz Dasani this morning..........

$13.33 a gallon.

Now that's REFINED!!!!!!!!!!!

[culp]

That's a positive way to look at it. However, my sweet Mom thought we were all nuts to actually buy water!:D

[Abacouple]

Starbucks coffee - $28.00 a gallon (or something like that)

[Patty&Rudi]

Wow! Our gas is only at $1.25 here!
;)

[Savasa]

Hiya Patty and Rudi,
Um....that's $1.25 per litre times four is about $5.00 per gallon (US)
Savasa

[SusieAndAl]

Regular unleaded in Marsh Harbour was $5.96/gallon yesterday.

Electricity cost is going through the roof; more increases to come. The good news is the government is suspending a total of 17% tax on fuel for BEC so that will help a little.

Food costs are skyrocketing due to fuel and the magnifying impact of the tax structure here.

But...it is a beautiful day here: brilliant sky, shimmering water and a slight breeze on the Atlantic side. Time to take the potcakes for stroll on the beach!

Cheers -- SusieAndAl

[BahamaAngie]

Better catch a lot of fish and grill them! Things are going up here. Gas is still under $4 but getting there quickly and food is rising.

[Henz]

most places $4.12. Some as much as $4.28

[Abacoparrott]

Wonder how the Vespa business is doing? Ken

[Abacouple]

Gasoline in central Georgia is down 12 cents in the last week. $3.79 at our nearby station this morning.

[Sarge]

We are currently paying the equivalent of $2.53 per litre for diesel. There are 4.55 litres to the gallon so someone cleverer than me can do the math to get the comparable price!

[Aardvark]

4.55 litres to the Imperial gallon but only 3.78 litres to the US gallon, so at 9.56 a gallon it's a bargain

[Sea Cat]

Gas in Man-O-War is $6.25 and diesel is $6.55 wow.

[vharrison]

Gas in Man-O-War is $6.25 and diesel is $6.55 wow.

Wow, just last month it was under $6.

[patw]

Its $6.20 and $6.58 here on Guana.

[SamFamAustin]

Wow, Friday's trading really showed some weakness in the US economy. Due to inside trading and a weak dollar, crude oil zoomed to $138. Pressure to keep raising gasoline and diesel prices is likely to continue, even as refiners cut the margins (different between costs and price / gallon).

Of course supply and demand explains some of it, as with the "terrorist premium" because of unrest in the Middle East and Nigeria. China's demand is especially noticeable now.

However, one study concluded that about a third of the pressure to raise rices was solely from investors in the virtually unregulated commodities market. I forget the source but the researchers found that these traders are responsible for a price impact equal to all the oil, gasoline, and diesel that China consumes! It is truly a "bubble" of massive proportions.

Our only hope - and I'm sorry to say this if you're in investment and commodities - is that the bubble will burst, just like the Dot-Coms, housing, and now even ethanol. The true value of crude oil is approximately half what it is now being traded. That's a huge bubble! And we're all paying for it ...

[HALF-A-HAMIAN]

Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less!

[Abacouple]

Amen, half. Our rip-off local stations are all at $4.15. 15 miles north and south along the interstate, $3.89-3.99. Gasoline is one commodity I never buy in my hometown. I've heard no reasonable explanation of why the retail difference.

[PattyB]

Amen, half. Our rip-off local stations are all at $4.15. 15 miles north and south along the interstate, $3.89-3.99. Gasoline is one commodity I never buy in my hometown. I've heard no reasonable explanation of why the retail difference.
Around here it varies due to city and county tax.

[Abacouple]

No city or county tax extra here. Governor did freeze the state tax on gasoline to avoid an automatic increase triggered by gas going over a certain price.

[SamFamAustin]

Oil production in the Gulf of Mexico (GOM) is expected to rise from 1500 thousand barrels a day to about 2100 barrels and level off for several years at that level, while GOM natural gas seems to be holding steady, although below 1990 levels. See:
http://www.gomr.mms.gov/PDFs/2007/2007-020.pdf

The study says that the GOM is one of the largest oil fields left in the US, I guess leaving out the details that in the long term, 10-20 years, the northern slopes of Alaska could become equally as large. It's like "pick your poison: hurricanes or severe winters" (my quotes, no source).

On the Grist [enviro] blog I noted that Alaska dominates the West Coast as for oil production but Prudhoe Bay daily are falling dramatically, and the pipelines are in a severe state of corrosion. Oil cannot be pumped across the Continental Divide, so Alaska oil would mainly benefit the Pacific market, not the Atlantic. I did notice that there is a reason why the Panama Canal is being rebuilt for larger ships - for inter-basin transfers of oil because things will rapidly become unequal unless ANWR comes on line. Interestingly, a bunch of the money for the Panama Canal deepening and widening project comes from ... China, our competitor for world oil supplies.

But the good news is that coming soon, GOM oil production could be up at least 10%, barring another Katrina. /sam

[PattyB]

If you are talking about the GOM off the coast of FL, it is not going to happen any time soon. Both of our senators, Nelson (D), and Martinez (R), are standing shoulder to shoulder against this plan. It is too fragile an area for drilling. Besides, it would take a decade or two of exploration before we would see any oil put into production. Plenty of time to implement alternative energy, and mass transportation, which is growing more and more attractive with commuters each week.

[HALF-A-HAMIAN]

While refineries and storage took damage, no offshore rig has yet suffered damage or leaks by hurricanes, even with direct hits like Katrina! We could adopt this, and just use oil for lubricants and plastics:
http://videos.komando.com/category/cars/

[SamFamAustin]

Correct, most of the far eastern GOM off Florida is marginal for natural gas, not the huge oil finds like off Louisiana. I can check my map but some of the heavy action is closer to Florida these days, although in deep water of over 1,000 meters or 3,000 feet - way, way offshore. Alabama district, I think they call it.

Strangely, Florida is going to have heavy oil production much closer to its coast. Cuba is looking at an immense field right off Key West and intends to drill it within its territorial waters. Loads of money from China, Russia, and Norway is coming in. Due to trade embargoes, the US can't have a say in any of this, an unfortunate thing. We can't negotiate it, drill it, or buy it.

I don't mean to sound like a blow-hard, but down here on SPI we have 3 fairly large offshore wells within 15 miles. This has never been a problem and the fishing is actually better. Never a spill. These are natural gas wells in less than 200 meters of water. While it is mainly gas, the by-products are condensate and puny but significant amounts of crude oil. The people in Florida are rather sensitive about this, so I won't be pushy ... but I do have to wonder sometimes where you think all that energy comes from.