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FarmerBob
09-27-2009, 01:49 PM
In the bigger picture, maybe worrying about the potential pollution from power plants, large developments, etc. is a moot point.;)

http://www.livescience.com/environment/050308_super_volcano.html

PaBill
09-27-2009, 03:08 PM
Don't forget the big rock headed our way. Scientists are warning, and God don't lie! Just a matter of time.

tim abbott
09-27-2009, 04:45 PM
I feel better already.

raptor
09-27-2009, 07:37 PM
Can., May., Could. The words I love to hate.

I've seen so many scary stories about Swine (H1N1) Flu, Global Warming, Global Cooling, Running Out of Oil, Eating Butter, Using Salt, Getting Cancer, the Ozone Hole, Melanoma, you name it. My brain goes blank when I see those things.:rolleyes:

How come we are living so much longer and having so much fun doing it?

PELLUCID
09-29-2009, 07:42 AM
The environmental threat that worries me most is Dihyrdrogen Monoxide (DHMO). The stuff is lethal... and it can be found all across the Bahamas! For more information on this dangerous substance, and what you can do to protect yourself, visit:
http://www.dhmo.org/

Stone Malone
09-29-2009, 08:29 AM
eat drink and be merry

BahamaAngie
09-29-2009, 08:57 AM
eat drink and be merry


Or at least appear to be!!!:)

PaBill
09-29-2009, 06:51 PM
I have a friend that lost his lung to cancer and had a massive heart attack yet he still Smokes, and eats bacon by the pound. When i asked him what he was doing, he said" When it is his turn to go he will go, he may as well be happy." I see holes in the Theory, ...I had a friend who never drank a day in her life never smoked, ate well, the specimine of health, she was hit and killed by a Drunk driver. We could ban every single power station, Development, use of fossile fuel and then have a Massive Earthquake, Hurricane, Volcanic eruption, Metorite/astroid hit....and it all be in vain.
I just read through the site that was listed on DHMO....I would only suggest reading it yourselves, and asking if you would let the writers babysit your children...Mine are going no where near them.

tim abbott
09-29-2009, 07:10 PM
interesting logic Pa Bill

Tim Abbott

PELLUCID
09-29-2009, 07:40 PM
I will give a brief and subtle hint... writing a one-page paper about the DHMO site is often assigned to schoolchildren these days to help sharpen their critical thinking skills.

culp
09-29-2009, 07:54 PM
I think the difference here is that some folks believe they actually don't have a hell of a lot of control over the "big picture", and others think they can have significant control over their fate. I believe the truth lies in between the two extremes.
Just my 2 cents worth.:o

papanasty
09-30-2009, 06:13 AM
I have cheated Death so many times in my life it's like i'm a Cat with 9 lives!!
Before i had my heart surgey i had heart attacks for 4 months thinking they were heart burn, when i had the big one at ORCHID BAY when the season was over i went there to work on there water maker with not a sole around.

I remember laying there in the parking lot trying to get a signal on my cell phone so i could call some one before i finally passed out and then 2 hours later woke up in the parking lot were i collapsed,got up brushed myself off and did what i came to do and went back to Hopetown. Finally i realized it was more than heart burn!!

The moral of this is that you have not got a CLUE when or how you are going to go unless you get Cancer then they pretty much give you a date! When the good Lord says its time thats when you will meet your maker, do i wonder about it? Absalutely not,as long as i can get out of my bed in the morning i'm going to do some thing constructive,My passion has always been to build BIG things!! The one thing i have realized in life that DIEING is easy compared to what lifes challenges dish out to us on a daily basis, PHYSICALLY,EMOTIONALLY, FINANCIALLY so enjoy life to your fulliest cause when its over its over!!! Have a great Day Papanasty :):)

JJ
09-30-2009, 06:28 AM
The environmental threat that worries me most is Dihyrdrogen Monoxide (DHMO). The stuff is lethal... and it can be found all across the Bahamas! For more information on this dangerous substance, and what you can do to protect yourself, visit:
http://www.dhmo.org/

When I first read this thread, I almost posted a dihydrogen monoxide link also (it was a petition to ban DMHO)! I work in water supply planning and run across a lot of the "fear of the unknown" and public concern particularly over trace organics in water supply -- we eat foods treated with an array of chemicals, coated in pesticides and fertilizers, but demand that our drinking water to be ultrapure. There have been many recent scare stories on pharmaceuticals and other trace chemicals in our water supplies, but the concentrations are minute -- we are only detecting them now because our analytical methods have improved allowing us to find constituents in the parts per billion and smaller range. You would have to drink something along the lines of 50 gallons of treated wastewater per day for the rest of your life to get a single therapeutic dose of tylenol for example, but it is hard to get anyone to accept anything in their water.

SamFamAustin
09-30-2009, 12:03 PM
Whiskey's for drinking; water's for fighting
= paraphrased from Mark Twain

Water is a proven killer, and one of the first things the colonists did in America was to make beer, wine, and some kind of whiskey. The Spanish planted vineyards in America in the middle 1500s, so scared they were of water, especially standing water. If water was consumed, it had to be boiled, such as in coffee or tea (remember the original Boston Tea Party - they were addicted to the stuff). Alcohol, boiling, increasing the acidity, and various teas were known to kill bugs and disease in the water, plain and simple.

Interesting, since without water, we would die. How about that for a love-hate relationship? :D

PaBill
10-20-2009, 02:25 PM
"In Wine there is Health, in Beer there is Freedom, in Water there is Bacteria."quoted by the same man who quoted: "Beer is Proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy."
Ben Franklin.
Also one of those who would dump tea in a Harbour.

Long Look
10-20-2009, 05:53 PM
This thread makes me sad, just because something will eventually end the world does not mean we should fail to attempt to protect what we can.


"You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done." -Ronald Reagan

PELLUCID
10-21-2009, 01:33 PM
Ben Franklin knew about bacteria? That one registers in the red zone on my skept-o-meter :D

SusieAndAl
10-21-2009, 01:53 PM
LOL! He actually did say that. The Dutch discovered bacteria in the late 1600's, and it was widely known to men of science in Franklin's day.

DrRalph
10-21-2009, 02:06 PM
From the Types of Bacteria web site (http://www.typesofbacteria.co.uk/how-when-were-bacteria-discovered.html):
Anton van Leeuwenhoek, a Dutch cloth merchant, was the first person to see bacteria. During the 1660s he started to grind glass lenses to make better magnifying lenses so he could examine the weave of cloth more easily. He excelled at lens grinding and achieved magnifications up to 500 times lifesize. It is not recorded why he decided to use his best lens to look at a sample of pond water, but he did, and saw that it was teeming with tiny living things.

Leeuwenhoek sent a report of his sightings of bacteria and algae to the Royal Society in London in the late 1670s with many detailed drawings. These still exist today and it is obvious that, as well as algae and other single-celled plants and animals, he also saw some of the larger bacteria.

floridaskater
10-21-2009, 02:29 PM
what about drinking water off the rooftops? My roof has a coat of elastomerit (sp) paint, most shingles and paint are petrolium based. It's like drinking out of a cup made of this stuff? Just wondering if 30 years from now we'll be shaking our heads on this one.

Charlotte Couple
10-21-2009, 03:24 PM
Ben Franklin knew about bacteria? That one registers in the red zone on my skept-o-meter :D

Ol' Ben was a pretty smart guy. Are you practicing your critical thinking skills? Thanks for posting that DHMO site. That is genius!

SamFamAustin
10-21-2009, 03:34 PM
what about drinking water off the rooftops? My roof has a coat of elastomerit (sp) paint, most shingles and paint are petrolium based. It's like drinking out of a cup made of this stuff? Just wondering if 30 years from now we'll be shaking our heads on this one.

I shouldn't think the roof is the problem, unless it is oxidizing to the point of falling off. I'd me more worried about pigeons, buzzards, and seagulls roosting on the roof. Here in Texas we back a black bird called a "grackle" which roosts in such large numbers they can turn a tree white. :eek:

PELLUCID
10-21-2009, 08:38 PM
From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteria#History_of_bacteriology :


Bacteria were first observed by Antonie van Leeuwenhoek (http://abacoforum.com/wiki/Antonie_van_Leeuwenhoek) in 1676, using a single-lens microscope (http://abacoforum.com/wiki/Microscope) of his own design.[10] (http://abacoforum.com/forums/#cite_note-9) He called them "animalcules" and published his observations in a series of letters to the Royal Society (http://abacoforum.com/wiki/Royal_Society).[11] (http://abacoforum.com/forums/#cite_note-10)[12] (http://abacoforum.com/forums/#cite_note-11)[13] (http://abacoforum.com/forums/#cite_note-12) The name bacterium was introduced much later, by Christian Gottfried Ehrenberg (http://abacoforum.com/wiki/Christian_Gottfried_Ehrenberg) in 1838.[14] (http://abacoforum.com/forums/#cite_note-13)


Pasteur is generally credited with the modern germ theory of disease. Franklin, wise as he may have been, can hardly be credited with any saying that references the word "bacteria"!

If you want to win bets, take the losing side on any tale which proposes an origin for an acronym prior to the 1930s. TIP and POSH are about the only ones printable on a family-oriented venue. Go to snopes.com for more.

Bottom line, stories of how words and sayings originate are highly susceptible to later revision.

JJ
10-22-2009, 06:14 AM
Franklin died in 1788.