Treasure Lovers

[HALF-A-HAMIAN]

Has anyone at Treasure heard these rumblings?:confused:

http://www.abacouncensored.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=668&sid=d56ee3973ab6c0af27b720fbc8c981ea

[Abacoparrott]

consider the source of these "rumblings".........not to say it's not accurate but I would have to know the source before I formed an opinion.....as we all know from our own US News networks, even the reporters "color" their stories according to their own political leanings.....I would like to think that this story regarding Mr Ingraham is a "planted story" due to upcoming elections......ken

[SamFamAustin]

well, when I finally land on the ground after skydiving and end up in the 4-foot hole, you could say I was pretty near "planted."

Interesting, tho', how some folks read this stuff, like who would get first dibs if an election went one way or another. Scandalous, but some people live for that stuff, just like the afternoon soaps.

But compared to sky diving in a Pink Tutu, nada, no comparison. :rolleyes:
/sammie

[HALF-A-HAMIAN]

I tend to agree, Ken. The incumbents are running scared, and there's been a lot of mud-slinging. Besides, this is a mainland beach, not a private island, so they cannot deny access from the water or walking in from either side of 'their' beach area (yeah, that was working good at Bakers).

[DrRalph]

Without starting a civil war, could some of you good Bahamian folk explain the philosophical and operational differences between the FMN and PLP to us? I know the PLP got its start in the Colonial period, in an effort to acquire self-rule, but that's been a few decades. Where are things now?

[PELLUCID]

I'm not a Bahamian but I'll chime in with what I believe to be a fairly accurate history of the PLP and FNM.

During British rule, the UBP controlled Parliament. It was in essence a white-run party. The PLP under the leadership of Lynden Pindling achieved "majority rule" in 1967. This remains a proud achievement to most Bahamians, even those who condemn the corruption in the later years of the Pindling administration.

The FNM broke away from the PLP in 1970. Immediate issues were favoritism to certain investors in Bahamas Airways and the unilateral amendment of the Hawksbill Creek Agreement governing Freeport. More broadly I believe it was a conflict between strong personalities within the PLP. In any event, the Bahamas became independent in 1973 with a vigorous two-party system.

I would classify both the FNM and PLP as "brokerage parties" which attempt to put together coalitions across lines of class, race, and region in order to win elections. Neither of them have a specific philosophy; the Bahamas does not seem hospitable to Socialists or Greens or Christian Democrats or other narrowly-focused parties commonly seen in Europe.

One thing you can say about Bahamians, they are seriously enthusiastic about their politics. I predict you will see lots more colorful rhetoric leading up to the next election between now and May.

[Island Daze]

does anyone know the actual election date?

[SamFamAustin]

Don't change that dial you heard it here first on Channel 78, folks!
Is that guy good or what?
sammie

[Jerry S]

does anyone know the actual election date?

the honourable Perry Christie
can call off the election until??
Check out the www.bahamasblog.com (http://www.bahamasblog.com)

[HALF-A-HAMIAN]

the honourable Perry Christie
can call off the election until??
Check out the www.bahamasblog.com (http://www.bahamasblog.com)

Or move it up. They no doubt audit voter registration and Bahamian voters are VERY vocal on how they will vote, so the incumbent party has time to recruit or buy or manufacture needed votes. Sadly, it sounds like some past US political elections, with the difference of fixed polling dates.

Kinda like Iraq. Let's give them our Constitution. We're not using it anyway:rolleyes:.

[Beer Baron]

Let's give them our Constitution. We're not using it anyway:rolleyes:.
U made me LOL.

[coolchik]

Well, I'd also add that the FNM is the conservative party and the PLP is the liberal party.

[Spagna]

OK..but wht does that mean? There is alot of confusion in the USA about what conservatives believe in vs what liberals believe in and it transcends party lines. In another country like the Bahamas I have no idea what a 'conservative' believes in or a 'liberal' either. I got the impression from some remarks that neither party in the Bahamas has a plan for the citizens and the country but only for their own special interest groups. Seriously, who believes what and does anyone of them have a good plan?

Well, I'd also add that the FNM is the conservative party and the PLP is the liberal party.

[local]

Well, I'd also add that the FNM is the conservative party and the PLP is the liberal party.
both parties would be considered "conservative " in their outlook and policies..pellicud has a good grasp on the historical origin of each party

[coolchik]

Both have websites with very interesting reading, once you get through the politico-speak.

L vs. C? Socially both parties seem very close. The FNM has a history of encouraging free-markets and reducing govt owned companies. My take is that is one of the major differences. The other seems to be the FNM's continued interest in localizing more govt to the Family Islands.

Yes? No? Maybe?

[Abacoparrott]

The FNM is more conservative than PLP.......the FNM seems to be more free enterprise and the PLP more gov't control.....just my observation but I don't live there......ken

[coolchik]

Well Ken, I don't know your politics but considering all the posts about your...um...commando style, I bet that you wish FNM stood for Free Naked Movement!

(sorry, couldn't resist)

[Patti Puzo]

Good one Coolchik!!!!

[Abacoparrott]

I like Coolchik's idea of the FNM better than my discription......I'll bet that the Bahamians would be much happier .......even tho the real FNM's ideas have proven themselves successful.........hmmmm....mebbee Coolchik's FNM and the real FNM should collaborate! :D

[coolchik]

My hubby is a firm:D believer in the FNM, but I don't think he's expecting much support for a resurgence of the Abaco Independance Movement. Unless he could be named King, I think we will have to settle for the ocassional vacation there. We will have to take our FNM where we can find it...:p

But then, he does know Robert Brown...

(I'll leave it to you all to figure out that.)