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Old 02-21-2009, 11:57 AM
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How to Make a Cast Net

Back when I was a little guy in my single digit years I had an aunt and uncle that lived on the Texas coast near a little town called Sargent. Their home was along the banks of Caney Creek, a small creek that fed into the intercoastal waterway. Some of my fondest memories are from the times we visited there. My uncle taught me how to throw a cast net and ever since then I've always loved them. When we go fishing now down in Rockport I almost have as much fun catching bait with the cast net as I do catching redfish. Plus I get to brag that I always catch more "fish" than anyone else... nevermind that they're 3 inch mullet.

So it's my long fascination with these nets that leads me to want to make one from scratch. I've read a really good book on the subject by a fellow named Ted Dahlem. So armed with that information and some basic supplies here we go...

(I'll add more pictures as the net progresses.)
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Willy, you need to apply to be on the next Survivor series....
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Ugg, liquid sunshine here in our spot of coastal Texas today - rain, a good day for making such weapons of mass instruction.
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:31 PM
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Cold and windy here today Sam. Nice day to be inside.

OK, I've got past the hard part... setting up. This starts with loading up the shuttles (Picture 1). Next you make a chain that consists of 2 rows of 41 loops (Picture 2). The chain is joined end to end which ultimately gives you 2 rows of 42 loops. This is loaded onto a hinged metal ring that ends up sandwiched between 2 pieces of plastic (Picture 3). The sandwiched pieces are attached to the clamping fixture (Picture 4)... and now I'm ready to begin the third row. When I start the fourth row I'll start making wideners (more on that later).
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That sure is purdy!
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:43 PM
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Thanks Patti!

Here's a little detail on the wideners. Starting with with the fourth row you add a widener every third loop. The next three rows are knotted normally and then on row eight you add a widener every fourth loop. The next three rows are knotted normally and then on row twelve you add a widener every fifth loop... etc, etc, etc.

Picture 1 is a widener. Picture two shows how the next row ties into the widener.
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I can honestly say that I am more impressed with your project than the building of the space shuttle. It never dawned on me to tackle something like that. I thought all cast nets came from a clear plastic box from Academy. You, sir, are a more patient man than I. The Grumpy Old Fishermen salute you.
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Caney Creek, otherwise known as the home to a zillion mosquitos, still has me scratching.
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:48 AM
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Thanks Bob. I'm just really curious about how stuff is made and things like this fascinate me.

I do need to post a correction on the wideners...

While the wideners do start on row four they are then tied in at every other THIRD row... not every fourth row like I said earlier. So wideners start with row four... then row seven... then row ten... etc.
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In the summer of '69 my college roommate "inherited" a seine net that was about 80 yards long and six feet high. It had several tears, no float line at the top, no lead line at the bottom. We spent a month working on it, and finally took it down to beach between Port Orange and Ponce Inlet. In an hour we netted 80 lbs of black drum, pompano, a stingray, a small shark, and some other odd critters. We took it to the old B&B Fisheries on Volusia Avenue, they paid us $20, we thought we had struck it rich.

We worked the net the next three evenings, and were doing pretty good until the Marine Patrol showed up. He had a gizmo that measured the diagonal width of the netting, and it turns out ours was too small, as in illegal; at least that's what he told us. He gave us a very stern lecture, threatened to send us to reform school, then he confiscated our net and our fish and left.

I always wondered if we got fleeced by a bad cop...
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Old 02-23-2009, 10:02 AM
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That is impressive...I get a headache just trying to mend my castnets, awesome
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Gee folks, doncha need to know the Beckett Knot or something to make a net? A very useful knot that is. Here's a link.
http://www.doflick.com/ViewVideo.aspx?vId=177&t=2

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Old 02-23-2009, 08:20 PM
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Yep, that's it Sam. I'm getting very familiar with that knot. I tied about a thousand of them last weekend. Only about 24,000 more to go.

This is going to take a little while!
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Willy, that is awesome!
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:18 PM
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You know... that would be a blast and I think I could do well... that is if I could get my fat butt into shape beforehand.

I just watched the show tonight. It was killing me. Those folks have a cast net and have no clue as to how to throw it. They could be not only catching bait but bigger fish as well to eat. The same thing happened back when the show was in the Amazon. They had a cast net and no idea how to use it. They also have a spear... and again, no clue. I love this show but they're killing me!
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You know... that would be a blast and I think I could do well... that is if I could get my fat butt into shape beforehand.

I just watched the show tonight. It was killing me. Those folks have a cast net and have no clue as to how to throw it. They could be not only catching bait but bigger fish as well to eat. The same thing happened back when the show was in the Amazon. They had a cast net and no idea how to use it. They also have a spear... and again, no clue. I love this show but they're killing me!

That's so funny Willy! I thought of you the minute I saw that. Doesn't it normally take just one person to do the throwing, or casting or whatever you call it?
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Well it's an acquired skill like a tennis serve, golf swing, or fly-cast, none of which I can do very proficiently - still working on walking and chewing bubble gum here!

The idea is to take a circle net, weights on the bottom, and throw it so the circle opens up flat on the water. This means you have to grab a part of the circle and throw it forward in a circular motion - without falling into the water, losing the pull rope, or doing one of many embarrassing things.

Done well, it is a work of art. Done like most, you throw a wad of netting and lead into the water and pray for divine intervention and perhaps the "entangle" concept. I'll probably stick with my two-man bait net that is square with a pole at each end and a leaded rope on the bottom. It works OK in a sandy surf bottom, not on a boat or from the dock. -sammie
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That's so funny Willy! I thought of you the minute I saw that. Doesn't it normally take just one person to do the throwing, or casting or whatever you call it?
Yes, it only takes one person and it is kind of like what Sammy says... there is a knack to it though honestly it's not that hard to learn. Maybe once I complete my net I'll see if I can put together a quick video on throwing it.
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How is it coming along?
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So far so good. It's coming along quite nicely and is about a 2 foot radius net at this point.
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Oooooh, I love the color! How big are you going to make it?
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I'm shooting for at least an eight foot radius and maybe as much as ten. It will depend on how bulky it gets.
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Brasilian cast net

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Cold and windy here today Sam. Nice day to be inside.

OK, I've got past the hard part... setting up. This starts with loading up the shuttles (Picture 1). Next you make a chain that consists of 2 rows of 41 loops (Picture 2). The chain is joined end to end which ultimately gives you 2 rows of 42 loops. This is loaded onto a hinged metal ring that ends up sandwiched between 2 pieces of plastic (Picture 3). The sandwiched pieces are attached to the clamping fixture (Picture 4)... and now I'm ready to begin the third row. When I start the fourth row I'll start making wideners (more on that later).
Good afternoon!
I admired the art of building cast nets, and I am trying to learn how to do it. here in Brazil, this art is dying, and few people know how to flue.
I know how to do the knot, but do not understand the use of feedback, how do I start?
thank you for help.
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Welcome to the FUN forum... all the way from Brazil! My husband visited Campinas in September.
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Good afternoon!
I admired the art of building cast nets, and I am trying to learn how to do it. here in Brazil, this art is dying, and few people know how to flue.
I know how to do the knot, but do not understand the use of feedback, how do I start?
thank you for help.
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I'm not sure that I understand your question with respect to "the use of feedback". Could you try phrasing the question differently?

Also, I would recommend getting the book "How to Make and Mend Cast Nets" by Ted Dahlem. It's available from Amazon.com. In fact, here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Mend-...7850777&sr=8-5


Oh... and here's a link to a supplier where you can buy all that you need: http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/net-making/

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Old 03-23-2009, 08:46 PM
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Progress Report

Here's a quick update on the current state of progress. The net is a little over 4 feet (radius).
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I'm not sure that I understand your question with respect to "the use of feedback". Could you try phrasing the question differently?

Also, I would recommend getting the book "How to Make and Mend Cast Nets" by Ted Dahlem. It's available from Amazon.com. In fact, here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Mend-...7850777&sr=8-5


Oh... and here's a link to a supplier where you can buy all that you need: http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/net-making/


good morning Willy!

In Brazil no have the book of ted Dahlen, and I do not speak English very well, then I tried the help of friends and fishermen.

on the "FEEDBACK" is actually the plastic net gauges, which I do not know to use.
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Old 03-24-2009, 08:02 AM
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You're doing fine... in fact your English is much better than my Portuguese.

I'm at work right now and will be busy all day but when I get home this evening I'll see if I can post some pictures of using the gauges and shuttles.
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Knot Tying Sequence

Let's see how this goes. Hopefully it will make sense. The sequence goes as follows:

1. Finishing the previous knot by pulling it tight.

2. Setting up for the next knot by passing the shuttle end of the twine over the net gauge.

3. Pass the shuttle behind the gauge from below and insert it into the next mesh in the net.

4. You are actually pulling with both hands in this step. You are stretching the net tight by pulling on the gauge with your left hand while pulling the shuttle end of the twine tight with the right hand. This draws the gauge up tight with the mesh where you are tying the knot. This is how the gauge keeps all of the meshes the same size.

5. Pinch the line with your left hand to hold it in place so that it will not slip.

6. Notice how I've placed the loop of twine from the shuttle over my left hand. Pass the shuttle behind the mesh in the net that you are tying into and through the net on the left side of the mesh. Make sure that the shuttle also goes up through the middle of the loop of twine that is over your left hand.

7. Pull the shuttle all of the way through and slowly tighten the knot against your pinched fingers.

8. Snug the knot tightly to lock it into place.

9. Completed knot and thus another mesh tied into the net.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:39 PM
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Knot Detail

Oh... and let me add this. Here's a close up of the knot before it is cinched tight...
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Oh... and let me add this. Here's a close up of the knot before it is cinched tight...

Thank you Willy, I am starting today my cast net.
your explanation is excellent, I have the pride to be able to pass this knowledge on.
really very good.

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